However, the woman giving the presentation was not a Pentagon employee. Her name is Alicia Marie Bargar, a research engineer in applied physics at Johns Hopkins University. In fact, none of the four speakers on stage worked for the Department of Defense or the United States government at all. Bargar was joined by an employee of Mozilla, an officer in the British Army, and an assistant director at NATO.
The talks were given as part of the organization’s International Conference on Cyber Conflict, or CYCON. Watters may have gotten the idea for the misleading segment from a three-minute snippet of the CYCON video that was shared on X/Twitter on Monday by former State Department official Mike Benz, who served under Donald Trump.
“Watch the incredible moment that a rep from the Pentagon’s psychological operations research firm pitched NATO’s military psyops center on turning Taylor Swift into an asset for the Western military alliance to stop “disinformation” on the Internet,” Benz wrote.